{"id":689,"date":"2012-11-04T18:54:10","date_gmt":"2012-11-04T18:54:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scriebine.ro\/?p=689"},"modified":"2019-11-26T21:24:53","modified_gmt":"2019-11-26T21:24:53","slug":"mami-pot-sa-ma-joc-cu-cei-doi-copii-ai-vecinei-sau-a-vecinei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/?p=689","title":{"rendered":"Mami, pot s\u0103 m\u0103 joc cu cei doi copii ai vecinei? (sau a vecinei?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/images.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-690\" title=\"images\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/images.jpg\" width=\"120\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a>\u00cen ultimele dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, am primit mai multe mesaje cu nel\u0103muriri \u00een privin\u021ba unei situa\u021bii din limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 care se pare c\u0103 d\u0103 b\u0103t\u0103i de cap multor oameni. Am citit, am r\u0103spuns, dar, apoi, am stat \u0219i am analizat mai bine. Am luat fiecare situa\u021bie \u00een parte, mi-am f\u0103cut o schem\u0103 \u0219i am r\u0103mas a\u0219a, pe g\u00e2nduri, c\u00e2teva secunde bune. Nu-mi venea s\u0103 cred. Apoi, mi-am zis: au dreptate cei care spun c\u0103 gramatica limbii rom\u00e2ne este dificil\u0103. Chiar este! <strong>M-am sf\u0103tuit cu prietenele mele cele mai bune (c\u0103r\u021bile:)) \u0219i parc\u0103 cineva m-a provocat la duel. Sunt \u0219i excep\u021bii! Am luat-o de la cap\u0103t, am ref\u0103cut schema \u0219i am \u00eenceput s\u0103-\u021bi scriu.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00cenainte de a \u00eencepe, am o rug\u0103minte: te rog s\u0103 ai r\u0103bdare \u0219i s\u0103 fii atent!<\/p>\n<p>Buuun, \u00eencepem.<\/p>\n<p>S\u0103 trecem la treab\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 o lu\u0103m pas cu pas!<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, \u00ee\u021bi spun c\u0103 este vorba de genitiv care, \u00een lingvistic\u0103, este cazul care exprim\u0103 posesia, apartenen\u021ba sau dependen\u021ba. R\u0103spunde la \u00eentreb\u0103rile: al\/a\/ai\/ale cui?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0218tii, m\u0103 \u00eentrebam, de ce este el a\u0219a de nesuferit? Un r\u0103spuns ar fi c\u0103 are prea multe forme. Patru. Iar eroarea const\u0103 \u00een acordul gre\u0219it, \u00een gen \u0219i num\u0103r, al articolului posesiv (al, a, ai, ale) cu substantivul care se afl\u0103 dup\u0103 el \u00een loc s\u0103 se acorde cu sustantivul pe care \u00eel determin\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>S\u0103-\u021bi dau un exemplu:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<strong>copii ai<\/strong> str\u0103zii sau <strong>copii a<\/strong> str\u0103zii?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<strong>provoc\u0103ri ale<\/strong> vie\u021bii sau <strong>provoc\u0103ri a<\/strong>\u00a0vie\u021bii ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; cei doi <strong>fl\u0103c\u0103i ai<\/strong> mo\u0219neagului sau cei doi <strong>fl\u0103c\u0103i a<\/strong> mo\u0219neagului?<\/p>\n<p>Parc\u0103 ai fi la o r\u0103scruce de drumuri \u0219i nu \u0219tii \u00eencotro s-o apuci.<\/p>\n<p>Hai s\u0103 l\u0103murim \u0219i dilema asta!<\/p>\n<p>Avem a\u015fa:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>a, al, ai, ale<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Cum se face acordul? Cu cuv\u00e2ntul de dinaintea articolului sau cu cel de dup\u0103 articol?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Regula spune c\u0103 acordul se face cu cel de dinainte.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Revin la exemplele de mai sus care sunt mai simple:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<strong>copii ai str\u0103zii (corect) &#8211; acordul se face cu \u201ecopii\u201d, nu cu \u201estr\u0103zii\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<del>copii a str\u0103zii<\/del> (gre\u0219it)<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<strong>provoc\u0103ri ale vie\u021bii (corect) &#8211; acordul se face cu \u201eprovoc<\/strong><strong>\u0103<\/strong>ri\u201d, nu cu \u201evie\u021bii\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0<del>provoc\u0103ri a vie\u021bii<\/del> (gre\u0219it)<\/p>\n<p>Cum \u0219tii ce form\u0103 s\u0103 alegi, dintre cele patru?<\/p>\n<p>A, al, ale sau ai?<\/p>\n<p>P\u0103i, s\u0103 vedem:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201eA\u201d se acord\u0103 cu un substantiv feminin, la singular.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Se tot vorbe\u0219te despre aceast\u0103 rochie a mea. (\u201ea\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201erochie\u201d care e substantiv feminin, la singular)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>\u201eAl\u201d se acord\u0103 cu un substantiv masculin, la singular.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Mihai este b\u0103iatul unui om care a realizat multe \u00een via\u021b\u0103, al unei persoane care nu s-a dat b\u0103tut, \u00een ciuda obstacolelor. (\u201eal\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201eom\u201d care e substantiv masculin, la singular)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>\u201eAle\u201d se acord\u0103 cu un substantiv feminin, la plural.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Aceste c\u0103r\u021bi sunt ale mele. (\u201eale\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201ec\u0103r\u021bi\u201d care e substantiv feminin, la plural)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>\u201eAi\u201d se acord\u0103 cu un substantiv masculin la plural.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Cei doi copii ai str\u0103zii merit\u0103 aten\u021bia noastr\u0103. S\u0103-i ajut\u0103m s\u0103 se integreze \u00een societate! (\u201eai\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201ecopii\u201d care e substantiv masculin, la plural)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>\u00a0S\u0103 nu uit\u0103m de substantivele neutre<\/strong>, totu\u0219i. S\u0103 vedem:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>S-a pomenit , \u00een treac\u0103t, de <strong>un ceas<\/strong> care a fost furat ieri \u0219i care <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>a fost al domnului\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><strong>Popescu<\/strong>. (<strong>\u201eal\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201eceas\u201d, care e substantiv neutru, la singular<\/strong>)<\/li>\n<li>S-a pomenit, \u00een treac\u0103t, de <strong>dou\u0103 ceasuri<\/strong> care au fost furate ieri \u0219i care <strong>au fost ale domnului Popescu<\/strong>. (<strong>\u201eale\u201d se acord\u0103 cu \u201eceasuri\u201d care e substantiv neutru, la plural<\/strong>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>P\u00e2n\u0103 acum a fost partea mai u\u0219oar\u0103 (sper).<\/p>\n<p>Hai s\u0103-\u021bi spun de<strong> substantivul multiplu!<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Elena, Liviu \u0219i Marius au plecat acas\u0103. (\u201eElena, Liviu \u0219i Marius\u201d reprezint\u0103 un substantiv multiplu)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Ce facem \u00een cazul articolului genitival? Cu ce sau cu cine se acord\u0103?<\/p>\n<p>Mai \u00eent\u00e2i, m-am g\u00e2ndit la ceva.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vreau s\u0103-\u021bi imaginezi o armat\u0103 \u0219i un rege. Regele e cel care comand\u0103, solda\u021bii execut\u0103, corect?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A\u0219a e \u0219i \u00een acest caz. Din p\u0103cate, unii oameni au tendin\u021ba s\u0103 fac\u0103 acordul gre\u0219it, uit\u00e2nd de \u201erege\u201d :).<\/p>\n<p>Hai s\u0103 vedem:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>\u00cen cazul domnului \u0219i <del>a doamnei<\/del><\/strong>, nu ave\u021bi dovezi s\u0103 le demonstra\u021bi vinov\u0103\u021bia.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Gre\u0219it<\/strong>! Hai s\u0103 vedem care e regele \u0219i care sunt solda\u021bii! <strong>Regele=\u201e\u00een cazul\u201d, iar solda\u021bii=\u201edomnul \u0219i doamna\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A\u0219adar, te duci direct la rege:), nu la solda\u021bi!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>\u00cen cazul domnului \u0219i al doamnei<\/strong>, nu ave\u021bi dovezi s\u0103 le demonstra\u021bi vinov\u0103\u021bia. (Corect)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Alt exemplu:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Deplas\u0103rile pre\u0219edin\u021bilor \u0219i ale mini\u0219trilor<\/strong> s-au \u00eencheiat cu bine, iar acordul a fost semnat.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Hai s\u0103-\u021bi mai dau ni\u0219te exemple&#8230; fii atent!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Acesta este <strong>punctul de vedere al \/<del>a ei<\/del><\/strong>, nu al tuturor celor prezen\u021bi \u00een sal\u0103.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00cen aceast\u0103 situa\u021bie, te \u00eentrebi: <strong>despre ce vorbim? Despre vederea ei? Sau despre punctul de vedere al ei(aici \u201eal\u201d) acord\u00e2ndu-se cu \u201epunctul\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Un alt caz, inversat, este urm\u0103torul:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Procentul de promovabilitate a\/<del>al elevilor<\/del><\/strong>, \u00een acest an, a fost sub 40%.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Cum e aici? <strong>Cu ce se acord\u0103 \u201ea\u201d? Cu procentul sau cu promovabilitatea?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0218i&#8230;\u00a0<strong>o ultim\u0103 explica\u021bie<\/strong>\u00a0cu privire la acest subiect.<\/p>\n<p>Uneori,\u00a0 po\u021bi \u00eent\u00e2lni \u0219i<strong> construc\u021bii \u00een care este prezent \u0219i un numeral cardinal.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Sunt <del><strong>proprietar al dou\u0103<\/strong><\/del> magazine. (gre\u0219it)<\/li>\n<li>Sunt <strong>proprietar a dou\u0103<\/strong> magazine. (corect)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Cea de-a doua variant\u0103 este corect\u0103.\u00a0 De ce? Pentru c\u0103, \u00een astfel de situa\u021bii, atunci c\u00e2nd ai de-a face cu numeralul cardinal, se folose\u0219te DOAR \u201ea\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Buuun. \u021ai-am dat multe informa\u021bii. Hai s\u0103 recapitul\u0103m pu\u021bin!<\/p>\n<p><strong>1) copii ai str\u0103zii &#8211; acordul se face cu substantivul din st\u00e2nga<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>2) atunci c\u00e2nd ai un substantiv multiplu, nu uita de rege \u0219i de armata lui:). (\u00een acest caz, rege este \u201ecazul\u201d)<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0\u00cen cazul domnului \u0219i al doamnei, nu ave\u021bi dovezi s\u0103 le demonstra\u021bi vinov\u0103\u021bia.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>3) atunci c\u00e2nd ai de-a face cu ni\u0219te construc\u021bii care mai mult te bag\u0103 \u00een cea\u021b\u0103<\/strong> \u0219i nu \u0219tii ce se alegi, ca \u00een exemplul de mai jos, <strong>opre\u0219ti timpul \u0219i te \u00eentrebi: este vorba de vederea ei sau de punctul ei de vedere?<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Acesta este <strong>punctul de vedere al ei<\/strong>, nu al t\u0103u.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Procentul de promovabilitate a elevilor<\/strong> a fost sub 40%.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Este vorba de procentul elevilor sau de promovabilitatea elevilor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>4) atunci c\u00e2nd numeralul cardinal intr\u0103 \u00een peisaj<\/strong> (invitat sau nu), \u00eel \u00eent\u00e2mpini cu prepozi\u021bia \u201ea\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Este <strong>proprietar a dou\u0103 terenuri<\/strong> de sport. (<strong>nu \u201eproprietar al dou\u0103<\/strong> terenuri\u201d)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Gata! Am muncit mult la articolul acesta, a\u0219a c\u0103 m-a\u0219 bucura dac\u0103 mi-ai l\u0103sa un comentariu s\u0103-mi spui dac\u0103 ai \u00een\u021beles sau nu.<\/p>\n<p>Cu drag,<\/p>\n<p>Vio<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00cen ultimele dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, am primit mai multe mesaje cu nel\u0103muriri \u00een privin\u021ba unei situa\u021bii din limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 care se pare c\u0103 d\u0103 b\u0103t\u0103i de cap multor oameni. Am citit, am r\u0103spuns, dar, apoi, am stat \u0219i am analizat mai bine. 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