{"id":663,"date":"2012-10-29T23:45:18","date_gmt":"2012-10-29T23:45:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scriebine.ro\/?p=663"},"modified":"2019-11-26T21:28:56","modified_gmt":"2019-11-26T21:28:56","slug":"el-trebuieste-sau-trebuie-sa-plece","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/?p=663","title":{"rendered":"El trebuie\u0219te sau trebuie s\u0103 plece?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/calvin376_2.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-664\" title=\"calvin376_2\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/calvin376_2-290x300.gif\" width=\"290\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/calvin376_2-290x300.gif 290w, https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/calvin376_2.gif 649w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 290px) 100vw, 290px\" \/><\/a>Azi vreau s\u0103-\u021bi povestesc despre o situa\u021bie pe care o \u00eent\u00e2lnesc, destul de des, la <a href=\"http:\/\/toastmastersbucuresti.ro\/\">http:\/\/toastmastersbucuresti.ro\/<\/a>. Despre ce este vorba? <strong>Despre verbul a \u201etrebui\u201d.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Unul dintre colegii mei a folosit, la un moment dat, \u201etrebuiesc\u201d \u0219i \u201etrebuie\u015fte\u201d.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Iar, cu o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een urm\u0103, un cititor mi-a trimis un mesaj \u00een care m-a \u00eentrebat despre acela\u0219i subiect. I-am cerut permisiunea de a-i publica \u00eentreb\u0103rile pentru ca mai multe persoane s\u0103 aib\u0103 ocazia s\u0103 citeasc\u0103 r\u0103spunsul meu.<\/p>\n<p>Cine \u0219tie? Poate \u0219i tu ai fost \u00een situa\u021bia de a folosi unele forme, mai pu\u021bin corecte, ale verbului \u201ea trebui\u201d sau ai observat la altcineva.<\/p>\n<p>Iat\u0103 \u00eentrebarea cititorului blogului <a href=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/\">https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u201eLegat de cuv\u00e2ntul &#8216;trebuie&#8217;, e corect s\u0103 folosim urm\u0103toarele forme? ex:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u00a0&#8211; Ei trebuiau s\u0103 lucreze.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u00a0&#8211; Noi trebuiam s\u0103 ajungem la timp. SAU Noi trebuia s\u0103 ajungem la timp.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>&#8211; Sau &#8216;trebuie&#8217; trebuie s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 &#8216;trebuie&#8217; (\u00een forma asta), iar schimbare s\u0103 aib\u0103 loc la celelalte cuvinte din propozi\u021bie?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>&#8211; Ei trebuie s\u0103 fi lucrat.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>&#8211; Noi trebuie s\u0103 fi ajuns la timp.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Pe de alt\u0103 parte, se pare c\u0103 e corect s\u0103 zicem ceva de genul: a trebuit s\u0103 cump\u0103r lucrul respectiv.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>S\u0103 vedem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hai s\u0103 lu\u0103m \u201ea trebui\u201d, la prezent<\/strong>. Ce forme are?<\/p>\n<p>Eu trebuie s\u0103 plec.<\/p>\n<p>Tu trebuie s\u0103 pleci.<\/p>\n<p>El\/Ea trebuie s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p>Noi trebuie s\u0103 plec\u0103m.<\/p>\n<p>Voi trebuie s\u0103 pleca\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Ei\/ele trebuie s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p>Aici ar trebui s\u0103 fie destul de simplu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ATEN\u021aIE! NU folosi trebuie\u0219te sau trebuiesc!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Exemplu:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Pentru ce \u00ee\u021bi<del> trebuie\u0219te<\/del> chitara asta? (gre\u0219it)<\/li>\n<li>Pentru ce \u00ee\u021bi trebuie chitara asta? (corect)<\/li>\n<li>C\u00e2\u021bi bani \u00ee\u021bi <del>trebuiesc<\/del> s\u0103-\u021bi cumperi ma\u0219in\u0103?(gre\u0219it)<\/li>\n<li>C\u00e2\u021bi bani \u00ee\u021bi trebuie s\u0103-\u021bi cumperi ma\u0219in\u0103? (corect)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Trecem acum la timpul imperfect.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Eu trebuia s\u0103 plec.<\/p>\n<p>Tu trebuia s\u0103 pleci.<\/p>\n<p>El\/ea trebuia s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p>Noi trebuia s\u0103 plec\u0103m.<\/p>\n<p>Voi trebuia s\u0103 pleca\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Ei\/ele trebuia\/trebuiau s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p><strong>*forma \u201eei trebuiau\u201d a fost introdus\u0103 de cur\u00e2nd \u00een dic\u021bionar, fiind considerat\u0103 \u0219i ea corect\u0103, al\u0103turi de \u201eel trebuia\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Un alt context \u00een care \u201etrebuie\u201d este folosit doar la persoana a treia, singular, este atunci c\u00e2nd folose\u0219ti <strong>construc\u021bii impersonale<\/strong>, ca de exemplu:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00cemi trebuie haine. (am nevoie, <strong>nu folosi \u201e\u00eemi trebuiesc\u201d<\/strong>)<\/li>\n<li>Contractul trebuie s\u0103 fie v\u0103zut de un notar. (este necesar s\u0103 fie v\u0103zut de un notar, <strong>n<\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>u folosi <\/strong><strong>\u201e<\/strong>trebuie<strong>\u0219te<\/strong><strong>\u201d<\/strong>)<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Lucr\u0103rile trebuie corectate de un profesor. (este necesar s\u0103&#8230;\u00a0<strong>nu folosi \u201etrebuiesc\u201d<\/strong>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Un alt timp, care ne face s\u0103 st\u0103m \u00een dubii c\u00e2nd folosim \u201ea trebui\u201d, este cel la perfect compus.<\/strong> Am citit mai multe p\u0103reri, iar subiectul e destul de controversat pe motiv c\u0103 \u201enu sun\u0103 bine\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i avem urm\u0103toarele forme:<\/p>\n<p>Eu a trebuit s\u0103 plec.<\/p>\n<p>Tu a trebuit s\u0103 pleci.<\/p>\n<p>El\/ea a trebuit s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p>Noi a trebuit s\u0103 plec\u0103m.<\/p>\n<p>Voi a trebuit s\u0103 pleca\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Ei\/ele a trebuit\/au trebuit s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Iar, la viitor, avem a\u0219a:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Eu va trebui s\u0103 plec.<\/p>\n<p>Tu va trebui s\u0103 pleci.<\/p>\n<p>El\/ea va trebui s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<p>Noi va trebui s\u0103 plec\u0103m.<\/p>\n<p>Voi va trebui s\u0103 pleca\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Ei\/ele va trebui\/vor trebui s\u0103 plece.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Hai s\u0103 recapitul\u0103m \u00eentreb\u0103rile de la \u00eenceput:<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote><p>&#8211; Ei <strong>trebuiau<\/strong> s\u0103 lucreze. <strong>(da, este o form\u0103 care a ap\u0103rut recent. Ei \u00a0trebuiau sau trebuia s\u0103 lucreze).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Noi <del><strong>trebuiam<\/strong> <\/del>s\u0103 ajungem la timp. \u00a0 SAU<\/p>\n<p>Noi <strong>trebuia<\/strong> s\u0103 ajungem la timp. <strong>(trebuia)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Sau<strong> &#8216;trebuie&#8217; trebuie s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 &#8216;trebuie&#8217;<\/strong> (\u00een forma asta), iar schimbarea s\u0103 aib\u0103 loc la celelalte cuvinte din propozi\u021bie? <strong>(\u201ea trebui\u201d este un verb impersonal, adic\u0103\u00a0 ac\u021biunea\u00a0 f\u0103cut\u0103 de acel verb nu se poate atribui nim\u0103nui, ca \u0219i \u201etun\u0103\u201d, \u201efulger\u0103\u201d, plou\u0103\u201d. Dup\u0103 cum ai v\u0103zut, a ap\u0103rut modificarea la persoana a treia, plural: \u201eau trebuit, trebuiau\u201d din cauza c\u0103 atrac\u021bia \u00eentre a \u201ea trebui\u201d \u0219i persoan\u0103 \u0219i num\u0103r e prea mare.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Ei <strong>trebuie<\/strong> s\u0103 fi lucrat.\u00a0<strong>(aici \u201etrebuie\u201d r\u0103m\u00e2ne \u201etrebuie\u201d, \u00een niciun caz \u201etrebuiesc\u201d)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Noi <strong>trebuie<\/strong> s\u0103 fi ajuns la timp.<strong> (e aceea\u0219i situa\u021bie ca mai sus. S\u0103 nu fii tentat s\u0103 scrii ori s\u0103 spui \u201etrebuim\u201d)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Pe de alt\u0103 parte, se pare c\u0103 e corect s\u0103 zicem ceva de genul: <strong>a trebuit s\u0103 cump\u0103r lucrul respectiv<\/strong>. (<strong>aici, \u201ea trebui\u201d este la trecut, iar formele sunt cele prezentate pu\u021bin mai sus.)<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>PRIMUL PAS<\/strong> pentru tine?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>NU <\/strong>folosi \u201e<strong>trebuiesc<\/strong>\u201d sau \u201e<strong>trebuie\u015fte<\/strong>\u201d.<\/li>\n<li>F\u0103 o excep\u021bie \u0219i nu lua seama la persoan\u0103 \u0219i la num\u0103r. (<del><strong>noi trebuim, voi trebui\u021bi<\/strong><\/del>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>De data aceasta, \u00ee\u021bi dau \u0219i <strong>al DOILEA PAS<\/strong>. M-a\u0219 bucura s\u0103 \u0219tiu dac\u0103 ai observat c\u0103 \u00een niciun context <strong>NU am scris verbul cu pricina cu doi \u201ei\u201d. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cu drag,<\/p>\n<p>Vio<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Azi vreau s\u0103-\u021bi povestesc despre o situa\u021bie pe care o \u00eent\u00e2lnesc, destul de des, la http:\/\/toastmastersbucuresti.ro\/. Despre ce este vorba? Despre verbul a \u201etrebui\u201d.\u00a0 Unul dintre colegii mei a folosit, la un moment dat, \u201etrebuiesc\u201d \u0219i \u201etrebuie\u015fte\u201d.\u00a0 Iar, cu o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een urm\u0103, un cititor mi-a trimis un mesaj \u00een care m-a \u00eentrebat despre acela\u0219i [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":110,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"zakra_sidebar_layout":"customizer","zakra_remove_content_margin":false,"zakra_sidebar":"customizer","zakra_transparent_header":"customizer","zakra_logo":0,"zakra_main_header_style":"default","zakra_menu_item_color":"","zakra_menu_item_hover_color":"","zakra_menu_item_active_color":"","zakra_menu_active_style":"","zakra_page_header":true},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v14.0.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>El trebuie\u0219te sau trebuie s\u0103 plece?  - Scrie bine<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow\" \/>\n<meta name=\"googlebot\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<meta name=\"bingbot\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/scriebine.ro\/?p=663\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"ro_RO\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"El trebuie\u0219te sau trebuie s\u0103 plece?  - Scrie bine\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Azi vreau s\u0103-\u021bi povestesc despre o situa\u021bie pe care o \u00eent\u00e2lnesc, destul de des, la http:\/\/toastmastersbucuresti.ro\/. 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